kala, art........

 
Ka : chief of the Karanas - Mind 
[Anthahkarnaas : Manas, Buddhi, Chiittha, Ahankaaram, Gnyaanam] 

La : That which dissolves in to daivam [Paramathma]

  Art. which is the best art?     How ??

rishi cognizes

Artist sees life, draws a meaning,

cognizes an idea from within .

gets inspired to express

he chooses a medium that is most suitable

it can be speech song drawing painting

sculpture, photo video drama dance theater movie

he creates a piece of art

he wants to create the best like the one of god's creation

with multidimensional multicolored multi fragranced,

pleasing to touch taste see smell hear, bubbling with life

goes further searching the better and better media and reaches nearer himself to his body mind

and penetrates deeper in search of

still better material still better medium

and ultimately he discovers his deepest

the pure consciousness, the best and ultimate medium and material

and starts creating , he is now brahma ,one with the creator

he wills and creation happens

 Art     let’s know  how music and all art forms  mediums evolved

''Geetham, Vadyam, tatha Nrithyam thrayam Sangeethamuchyathe.''

Combination of geetham (song), vadyam (instrument), nrithyam (dance) form sangeetham.

in this context, natya shahtra,and its details mudras, rasas, bhavas become significant,

basically spiritual pursuits lead us to capture the basics every aspect of life

when the basics are grasped, it is easy to comprehend the elaborations , and we get maximum joy in listening seeing the artistic expressions in the capacity of a connoisseur , a rasagna

thus i have developed interest in almost every branch of knowledge, internet sharing is a great help

as you said, there are opportunities to learn more

1 if you can deal ramayan, and mahabharath separately with 9 rasas applicability it will be good

we should not switch from one to other suddenly it causes some disturbance

2 visuals are distractions in the spiritual contemplation, blocks the mind in creating and enjoy its own created images

3 every scripture every episode has deeper meaning, what is the deeper meaning that you are getting out of this blog, and

4 what is the spiritual significance of navarasas in life in attaining mukthi, the prime goal?

5 do rasas require an external medium / stimuli for their manifestation

6 what are the fields in life which rasas have a major role

7 are rasas to be relished encouraged or to be despised and kept at a distance?

According to Bharata’s Natyashastra there are eight fundamental feelings or mental states referred to as Sthayibhavas which can be experienced by human beings. These are: Delight (Rati), Laughter (Hasya), sorrow (Soka), Anger (Krodha), Heroism (Utsaha), Fear (Bhaya), Disgust (Jugupsa), and wonder (Vismaya). Corresponding to these mental states are eight Rasas: the Erotic (srngara), the Comic (Hasya) the Pathetic (Karuna), the Furious (Raudra), the Heroic (Vira), the Terrible (Bhayanaka), the Odious (Bibhatasa), and the Marvelous (Adbhuta). A ninth Rasa, the Peaceful (Shanta) was later added.

The realisation of Rasa is said to result from the union of three interrelated elements – Vibhava, Anubhava and Vyabicaribhava and also the permanent mood called Sthayibhava.

For this question 7 are rasas to be relished encouraged or to be despised and kept at a distance?

 

in the light of your explanation, i tend to conclude,that rasas are inevitable effects and cannot be prevented from happening , so we to welcome them with the help of the permanent mood called Sthayibhava.

this is the correlation of feelings/mental states with rasas and more

“Our emotions are the gastric juices which transform this world of appearance into the more intimate world of sentiments. On the other hand, this outer world has its own juices, having their various qualities, which excite our emotional activities. This is called in our Sanskrit Rhetoric, Rasa, which signifies outer juices having their response in inner juices of our emotions. And a poem, according to it, is a sentence or sentences containing juices, which stimulate the juices of emotion. It brings to us ideas vitalized by feelings, ready to be made into the life-style of nature” Rabindranath Tagore

 

The fusion of Rasa theory and Bhakti is widely attributed to Rupa Gosvami, a disciple of Caitanya, who is credited with two key texts examining emotional devotion – the Bhaktirasamrtasindhu (“River of the Immortal Nectar of the Experience of Devotion”) and the Ujjvalanilamani (“The Effulgent Blazing Sapphire”). Emotional devotion begins with the ‘ordinary’ forms of love and desire felt by human beings, but the intention is to transform the ordinary into the sublime. Thus every devotee (regardless of background, caste etc.) is instructed to perform a set of basic practices. Whilst the Bhaktirasamrtasindhu details 64 Veidhi (“that which is based on rules”), there are five which are deemed to be ‘foundationational’:

* Recitation of the name of Krishna

* Remembering and savouring the exploits of Krishna as revealed in the Bhagavata Purana

* Serving the image of Krishna in temples

* Living in the company of holy men

* Living in the mandala of Mathura or Braj (Mathura is the reputed birthplace of Krishna)

By constantly turning one’s mind towards Krishna, the devotee begins a process which – gradually – becomes profound devotion. The basic human emotions are themselves insufficient, and must be continually refined. The devotee learns, progressively, to recognise all the various factors which either intensify or distract from this divine love. Gradually, the devotee learns how to transform the emotion (bhava) of ordinary desire (kama) into the pure and selfless love known as prema. For the advanced devotee, the 64 sadhanas are not mechanical ritual acts, but spontaneous expressions of love, the experience of which is to taste the Rasa – the pure essence of Love. Krishna is the source of Rasa, and there cannot, for devotees, be any Rasa apart from Krishna.

Any devotee whose mind is completely focused on Krishna will, it is said, involuntarily display evidence of that devotion, so that here, the Sattvikabhavas become markers of intense devotion.

 

Gosvami divides the path of the devotee into three stages. The first is that of Vaidhi-Bhakti, in which the devotee purifies his feelings using the aforementioned practices. The second stage is termed Raganuga-Bhakti – “the devotion of passion”. In this stage, the devotee is said to become a divine participant within the lila of Krishna, and does so by dwelling on the emotional feelings of love exchanged between Krishna and his parents, playmates, and the Gopis. Devotees engaged in Raganuga-Bhakti model their emotions on these divine ideal types. There are five appropriate moods: the Santa-Rasa (peaceful mood, as expressed for example, by meditating sages); the Dasya-Rasa (mood of servitude, as expressed by Krishna’s servants); the Sakhya-Rasa (mood of friendship); the Vatslya-Rasa (mood of parenthood – i.e. Krishna’s parents) and the Madhurya-Rasa (the conjugal mood expressed for example by the Gopis). Through Raganuga-Bhakti, the devotee is able to taste the Rasa (essence) of the players in Krishna’s lila. The final stage of devotion is that of Ragatmika-Bhakti – the perfected love of Krishna as experienced by the Gopis and other actors in Krishna’s Lila.

this is the great implied process of progressive transformation ,,the master key in this ''Emotional devotion begins with the ‘ordinary’ forms of love and desire felt by human beings, but the intention is to transform the ordinary into the sublime''.

Rasa is about human state of mind. Its about what the mind feels and the expression of the feeling thereafter. In the Bharata’s Natyashastra, Rasa is an emotion experienced by the audience created by the facial expression or the Bhava of the actor. In indian classical dance it is referred to as Rasa-abhinaya.

Human life is a rich fabric that is given colour and texture by the many happenings that shape it. The mundane actions that characterize every day as well as the extraordinary happenings that make and keep our lives interesting are all threads that get woven together to form this tapestry. The one thing that is common to all these threads is the fact that they evoke feelings in us, we respond to them with our emotions before they can become a part of our internal life. Indeed, life can be thought of as a continuous sequence of emotions that arise in various contexts and circumstances. These emotions, or rasas, are what give life different hues, shades and colours.

8 how the art of acting on the drama is related to nava rasas

9 is villain in real life is only actor

10 an actor acting a villain role how he feels on the rasa effect on his personality/ on personal life

11 are rasas are artificially induced, or natural responses?

9, 10 depends on how strong the personality the person carries.

 

11)Rasa can be understood as a dynamic experience between the artist, expression, and those who receive it. The artist experiences an emotion and is so overwhelmed by it that he seeks a medium with which to express those feelings. The one who views the artists’ work receives this emotion through the artists’ medium and so experiences the same emotion felt by the creator. The extent to which the viewer experiences the emotion felt by the creator depends on both the creator’s aptitude in presenting the work and the viewers’ aptitude to receive it.

''The extent to which the viewer experiences the emotion felt by the creator depends on both the creator’s aptitude in presenting the work and the viewers’ aptitude to receive it.''

leads me to say it is a factor of ''rasagnatha'' the capacity of the individuals to create , to share, to receive, it is a valuable trait of the personality, beyond the surface /superficiality

A key text which deals with the emotional theory of Rasa is the Natyashastra (the Textbook on Drama), attributed to Bharata Muni (some academics believe that it is more likely to be a compilation by several different authors). Bharata ascribed a divine origin to drama and considered it to be a fifth Veda. The Natyashastra primarily deals with theatre, dance & musical performance. According to the Natyashastra, the major purpose of dance, drama, ritual and poetry is catalytic in that aesthetic performance should provoke an emotion that is already present in members of the audience. The various elements of a performance combine to create a sympathetic response in those who experience them. Moreover, a member of the audience who has cultivated his or her own aesthetic response may experience a transformation of their own emotion into a purely aesthetic, transcendental feeling – an experience of divine bliss. This is the transformation of Bhava (“mood”) into its essence – Rasa. (NB: A scholar or connoisseur is sometimes referred to as a rasika).

---A scholar or ''connoisseur'' is sometimes referred to as a'' rasika''

yes, he discovers the value and enjoys more, in turn inspires the artist

digging deeper into the topic and making it more philosophical !

12 whether self realization , mukthi leads one to become of ''even vision, unpurturbed, unmoved, unaffected, untouched by rasas effect

13 krishna, ''the one yogastha '', excelled in which of the rasas more?

14 ,his way of '' not fighting the battle himself, but causing arjun to fight '' comes under what rasas, if at all ?

15, are rasas characteristic / specific to varnas, brahmana, kshathriya, vaisya, shoodra

16 are rasas characteristic / specific to male , female,

17 whether animals birds have rasanubhoothi or not?, they live in which rasas primarily

    art, and its purpose?

basically what is the definition of art, and its purpose, and that of art galleries?

surely, not crowd pulling.

whether general connoisseur has ability to judge the value of a piece of art, and the ability to judge the depth reached of artist  and the mastery of the artist on the themes ?

how is the price fixed--a factor of demand and supply? or on the nuances expressed?

what is the context of exposure ?

can art be great if it offends?

whether artist knows his journey forward or got stuck or reached a dead end or missed the track or compromised??

artist has any social responsibility or can express as uninhibited?

artist works in an environ of real life or lives in his private universe?

clarity on the abve may be relevant to the artist and the connoisseur .

Artist sees life, draws a meaning, cognizes an idea from within .

gets inspired to express 
he chooses a medium that is most suitable
it can be speech song drawing painting 
sculpture, photo video drama dance theater movie 

he creates a piece of art 
he wants to create the best like the one of god's creation 

with multidimensional multicolored multi fragranced, 
pleasing to touch taste see smell hear, bubbling with life

goes further searching the better and better media and reaches nearer himself to his body mind 

and penetrates deeper in search of 
still better material still better medium

and ultimately he discovers his deepest 
the pure consciousness, the best and ultimate medium and material

and starts creating , he is now brahma ,one with the creator
he wills and creation happens

 

So pursuit of art, in this context, pursuit of music takes artist to the level of brahma, ie ''naad brahma'' at the peak performance

art of sculpture, . leading my sight to the beauty hidden in the stone, leaving aside the remnants 

1 let me explore this new found clue , a great introduction to this subject sculpture, new to me as yet this advice is purifying my vision and heart ,

"Art is emptiness becoming a point, a dot, non dimensional yet is the origin to all dimentions , x y z or n up to infinity 

a dot flowing to becoming a line

a line looking left right,

becoming a curve, a wavy / zigzag/ in to shapes on plain xy plane" 

"In ''google drive'' possible to do a '' talk '' i drawing

1 i draw a pic , you add/ correct it and

i correct/ add / color then you can alter here no words

2 i share a pic

you draw another pic separately and send here too no words ,

pics talking to pics 

Square, pentagon polygons shapes acquiring geometry symmetry , becoming drawings, paintings in colour

a drawing or painting rises up and down becomes a cube ,a cone, a cylinder , an article"

"The three dimensional objects filled with particles becoming multi shapes sizes articles

oh, things are created now they want to become more beautiful , smooth , curved , sharp , warp, form forms and now they acquire the grace , in the hands of sculptor" 

"Sculptor searches themes, and materials and means to convey his dreams"

"Sees the nature around captures the beauty all round

    Art

What is art

How to create art

Who is artist, who the best
what's the purpose of art
which is the best art
what are the mediums to express creations
what is the ultimate medium
how to evaluate work of art
what are the important fields of art
who are the eminent in them
how to become great artist

What is the difference between artistic work and routine work

what is the relation between art and life
how many arts exist, what are they
how many more are possible, how
what is the relation between artist and connoisseur
who is the best connoisseur

Think on each , take time 

let's share , we shall open some new vistas, new worlds
you have the choice to discover or miss

Let's go a little higher than the routine blog, replies ,

praises , and derive max value to our precious time , and precious life

let's go a little beyond trivialities
i say it's possible
i wait i watch

    acting art

prior to learning acting, if the actor first attains the state of ''yogastha'', then his life becomes untouched, and his playing the character in a drama also becomes untouched, he may be in tears rolling, but deep in the core he might be experiencing ''no grief '', and hence could convey the bhava

the ability to experience and /express /convey the bhava as real as possible , ie nearest to life, indicates the depth of the artist, / sincerity/ devotion to the art,

and so i come to a valid conclusion that ..the artist first much reach his depths , thru intense sadhana and get at the cognition of brahman, which is the source of all arts, kalanidhi, and all aesthetics, saundarya, and truth/ authenticity

 

with this initial preparation the first quarter of the life, he turns out to be a great success in every undertaking, like that of singing/ acting.

if we see a not so good performance, the reason is that essential tapasya ,  is lacking, so the resultant mediocrity. and cannot move the audience greatly

      Art. which is the best art?

how ??

rishi cognizes

Artist sees life, draws a meaning,

cognizes an idea from within .

gets inspired to express

he chooses a medium that is most suitable

it can be speech song drawing painting

sculpture, photo video drama dance theater movie

he creates a piece of art

he wants to create the best like the one of god's creation

with multidimensional multicolored multi fragranced,

pleasing to touch taste see smell hear, bubbling with life

goes further searching the better and better media and reaches nearer himself to his body mind

and penetrates deeper in search of

still better material still better medium

and ultimately he discovers his deepest

the pure consciousness, the best and ultimate medium and material

and starts creating , he is now brahma ,one with the creator

he wills and creation happens

   Art and science are two together

Ultimate of science is to become ''all knowing '', omniscient

ultimate of art is to become '' all capable'', omnipotent

-----art n science together both for joy 

Misery is due to ignorance

gyani is always happy 

YogaratovA bhogaratovA

sangaratovA sanghavihiinaH|

yadat brahmani ramate chettam

nandati nadati nandatyeva||

Art n science together for producing maximum happiness with minimum energy , without wasting , 

for doing less accomplishing more 

Science is to know 

art is to create 

Best creation happens in bliss

anando brahma 

''a science is an investigation by means of repeatable experiment to gain useful and testable knowledge'' ----maharishi 

''a science is a systematized body of knowledge ''-------usual definition

knowledge has innumerable branches , each branch with gross and subtle levels 

All for generating joy ultimately 

Krishna is expert in 64 arts

gita is a great artistic creation, as well as a great science of life 

he presented a comprehensive vision of science technology and art in simplest words 

science is to be ''yogastha'', ie to be come knowledgeable

technology is to ''kuru karmani '' ie to device ways and means of doing the work

art is to ''karma sukaushalam'' , to be performing skillfully , with total mastery on science technology and art of life

Deeper the ocean, stronger, higher and wilder is the rise of the wave 

Basis for every artistic creation is the thorough understanding of laws of nature , ie science 

A musical composition is created, 

but expressed thru a musical instruments like sitar tampura tabala etc which are designed and created with best knowledge of science on relevant materials and processes of design and manufacture , finishing, tuning, upkeep, repair maintenance 

Basis for every artistic creation is the thorough understanding of laws of nature , ie science 

Science is a march knowing laws from gross to subtle and beyond , it is essentially inward march

art is a march creating master pieces of art , using the basic raw material , ie laws of nature 

Art of music is a technique of healing 

ie music therapy , gandharva veda details 

Gandharva veda is the scientific structure of the art of music producing the most beneficial effects on the individual and environ and the universe, , defining the time and raagas scientifically

God is a great scientist and a great artist of life , master of universe, jagannath 

Science is analysis

art is synthesis

Spirituality is both science and art 

By realizing the Supreme Reality , it is possible to synthesize science, art, culture, religion and spirituality for the common goal of universal joy and well being

By knowing the ultimate science, one can create a universe of his choice 

artists dwell in their created art universe

We must know science of being 

then possible to cultivate art of living 

Sa re ga ma is science of music

a raaga is artistic out put 

In the ultimate zoom out level , all will be superbly ok and beautiful 

hence arjun was asked to view situation in the ultimate zoom out, ie vishva roop , total perspective..

Science is factual on the cause and effect

superstition is assumption on the cause and effect 

Connoisseur is a provocateur

wisdom =knowledge+intelligence

knowledge without intelligence misleads 

intelligence is the basic quality of existence exemplified by the order and purpose of change 

Naishkarmyam is the best karma

''Similarities between art and science''

--rather complementarily, prakrithi and purusha

art is creation prakrithi, science is knowledge, purusha 

''of beauty and creativity...''

beauty has a lot of science behind it , principles of aesthetics , saundarya shashthra 

creativity sprouts from knowledge , inner knowledge 

deeper the artist, more creative he is , more beautiful his creation 

more of ''sathyam shivam sundaram'' 

''.even science creates some objects for the benefit or convenience of humanity.''

--every impulse of creation, artistic/ technological is towards producing more and more joy , towards, ultimate bliss 

Music is a art medium 

but it has the detailed sangeeth shastra behind it 

every art has a science basis 

''but it is the limitless human artistic mind'' sees some insights, some inner beauty, inner chunk of knowledge , and wants to share the findings and the joy of discoveries with one and all , and so '' creates wonders using some science.'' creates/ selects a medium to express the mysteries experienced in the known /unknown language/idiom , and tries to do it with the best of his abilities yet , he may succeed in giving just a glimpse/ a lead of the vision , since the abstract experiences cannot be expressed fully /clearly by any means, these must be experienced directly

however such leads/ suggestions may click that rare experiences in a few lucky receivers 

and they reach the source of that mystery within , like the givers inner source

some writings take one to their own inner depths 

for some others it's just a casual reading

    Artist On The Move

think ,what is art 

what's the purpose

who is artist 

what his purpose

art and reality how are they connected 

can artist create a live piece 

can it bring light and peace

how a piece is judged, evaluated now 

how to evaluate it's real value 

where all celebrities stand as artists 

krishn was expert in 64 arts, the best artist

where is modern art 

how it is different from traditional

should not artist grow to a higher medium to express 

what are the mediums and their relative places of application

basically what is the definition of art, and its purpose, and that of art galleries? 

surely, not crowd pulling. 

whether general connoisseur has ability to judge the value of a piece of art, 

and the ability to judge the depth reached of artist and the mastery of the artist on the themes ? 

how is the price fixed--a factor of demand and supply? 

or on the nuances expressed? 

what is the context of nudity? 

can art be great if it offends? 

whether artist knows his journey forward or got stuck or reached a dead end or missed the track or compromised??

artist has any social responsibility 

or can express as uninhibited? 

artist works in an environ of real life 

or lives in his private universe? 

clarity on the above may be relevant to the artist and the connoisseur 

.

which is the best art

how 

rishi cognizes

Artist sees life, draws a meaning, 

cognizes an idea from within .

gets inspired to express 

he chooses a medium that is most suitable

it can be speech song drawing painting 

sculpture, photo video drama dance theater movie 

he creates a piece of art 

he wants to create the best like the one of god's creation 

with multidimensional multicolored multi fragranced, 

pleasing to touch taste see smell hear, bubbling with life

goes further searching the better and better media and reaches nearer himself to his body mind 

and penetrates deeper in search of 

still better material still better medium

and ultimately he discovers his deepest 

the pure consciousness, the best and ultimate medium and material

and starts creating , he is now brahma ,one with the creator

he wills and creation happens

  Art

  fine art is more of mastery of the self over the self,

more consideration for the feelings of others, 

feelings of oneself ,than some routine painting or singing etc 

it is a matter of higher sensitivity,higher sensibility

   a good actor is one , who can depict a character, and does not get affected by that trait in personal life--- 

also, an actor need not be held in prison as ''commedian '' always in every picture 

that means he is trapped in the pattern

similarly a villain need not be villain 

hero need not be hero in every film

 64

  Art is Self Manifestation of the Artist. 

When an artiest exhibits more of his self, he becomes a true artiest. 
The scale of measuring an artist is “how much self is manifested by him in to his art”. 

In pursuit to create more and more artistic works, an artist try’s to learn more and more of him self. Knowingly or unknowingly he is in search of the god in himself. This approaches him to salvation. Hence it is also called a yoga

A fan or the connoisseur is a great admirer of an Artist. 
He amuses and collects more and more of the creation of his favorite artist. 

By admiring the creations of an artist, he knowingly or unknowingly is in search of the Artist that he himself.is 

That is actually, he is in search of the sole of the artist. 

This is in turn, in search of himself. 

Searching one own self, leads to the search of god who resides within 

Through the art both the artiest and the connoisseur [fan] both go in search of themselves 

and in turn they search for the almighty that leads to the salvation.